yeah, i remember it took me ages to download and install the various parts of Live 7. Unfortunately I don't have Live 8 as the upgrade price is quite expensive. Maybe i'll wait for V10. One question though: have you tried the new Vocoder? I heard it's fantastic, as good as many expensive stand-alone products. Ifyou use it i'd be interested to hear what you can do with it (remember, vocoders are also effective when used with non-vocal audio).

Charles